Showing posts with label propeller. Show all posts
Showing posts with label propeller. Show all posts

Friday, January 27, 2023

Revolutionary Propeller Design


 

I have talked about propellers and propeller design before, here and here.  In fact I proposed a new propeller design with a circular rim, but this revolutionary design  takes it a huge step further.  

Called a 'toroidal propeller', this design claims to eliminate tip vortices, consequently delivering a 20% increase in efficiency, and a huge decrease in noise.  Tho the article seems to be more focused on the application of the design to drone propellers (because drones and quadracopters are new, hip, and cool), it does mention marine applications.

And speaking of marine applications, when you are below decks and a boat passes by, you are certain to hear him - his prop makes a lot of noise in the water, and it is conveyed to your hull where you hear it.  Submarines have spent fortunes trying to eliminate prop noise because this noise carries a long way in the water and frustrates stealthy operation.  Expect these props to be refitted to all current and new submarines.

For now, if you want one for your boat, expect to pay approximately 10X the cost of a conventional prop, but this cost should come down significantly over the next few years, as the design gets adopted widely.


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Monday, February 5, 2018

More Propeller Thoughts

Some time back I did a mind dump of some thinking about boat propellers.  And one of the comments on that post hit a nerve - one that I have been thinking about for years.

Tip vortices.  What are these?  They are the spiraling water that slips off the ends of the prop blades when it is turning.  They come from the fact that water on one side of the prop is at a higher pressure than water on the other side.  This arrangement holds just fine until you get to the end of the blade, and then the high pressure water just spills off the blade and joins the low pressure on the other side, making a vortex.  For visualization, the same thing happens at the ends of an airplane wing, causing sometimes beautiful effects.  And drag.

Wing Tip Vortices

Making vortices uses energy - energy that could have been used to propel water astern giving thrust.  So, how to stop this waste?  On an airplane wing (or a keel...), one way is to put up a fence to stop the spill-over, thus the development of winglets and winged keels.

So what would a fence on a propeller blade look like?
  • Start with a conventional propeller.  
  • Add a ring that goes all the way around the ends of the blades.  
  • Extend the blades profile to meet the ring.  


This is an interesting example - the ring here is being touted as a guard, which of course it is.  But it almost meets the purpose of a fence.  It falls short only in that the ring is not wide enough to fully cover the ends of the prop blades.

Stationary ring bolted to engine
Why doesn't this prop guard achieve the purpose?  In fact, this is probably worse than no ring at all.  The tips will still be forming vortices, which will then immediately impact the (stationary) ring, creating additional turbulence and drag.    It is important that the tips extend to and attach to the ring, and that the ring rotates with the propeller.

Ducted fans have been using (stationary, however) rings forever.  And the cross section of the rings is designed to minimize flow turbulence as the fluid enters the duct (look at the leading edge of a jet engine cowling for an example).  If the rotating ring had such a cross section, drag could be reduced even further.

Now, if only I had a bronze foundry and some propeller tooling to play with...

If someone out there wants  to do the experiment, I need a RH 20x14 prop to fit a 1.25" shaft...





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Monday, November 14, 2016

Random Propeller Thoughts

Eolian's low aspect ratio propeller




I've been thinking about propellers lately.  A lot.


No, I can't explain that.  Perhaps it is a residue of our recent election.  Or something.

Nevertheless...

Now, I am not a trained Naval Architect.  But still, I have thoughts which seem coherent (to me at least, but then the judge may be biased), some brought on by casual observation of a rooster tail following a heavy cruiser.  Even riding on a ferry you can see evidence of a jet of water that eventually surfaces astern.

To me, the whole idea of thinking of a propeller as a water screw is, well, screwed.

Imagine that the that theoretical speed of a boat which would be determined only by the pitch of the prop and its RPM is called St.  In the common parlance, "slippage" - that condition when the boat is moving at less than St, is considered to be an inefficiency.

But imagine that a boat is moving thru the water at exactly St...  there is zero "slippage" - the prop is a perfect screw.  But then the only force on the prop is drag, as it completes its revolutions thru the water.  So how then is any force created* to move the boat forward?

How about this instead:  Newton's Third  Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.  Imagine now that the prop's mission in life is to throw as much water astern as it can...  in a sense the boat becomes a rocket, propelled by the water being thrown away aft.  This theory would have as a consequence that "slippage" is required for propulsion.  If the boat reaches St, from the boat's perspective NO water is being thrown aft... NO propulsion.  This also says that a boat will never reach St, because the closer it gets, the less propulsive force is available - a hydraulic version of Zeno's Paradox.

Given a fixed amount of horsepower applied to the shaft, the product of the amount of water discharged and its speed are fixed.  If you want more water discharged, then for a fixed amount of horsepower input, the discharge speed of the water must be decreased.  And vice versa.  So, if you want a high speed discharge jet (high St), you must compromise with less water in the jet.  Therefore, assuming the same Chevy V8 engine, installed in a high-speed racing hydrofoil, you'll need a comparatively small diameter prop with a HUGE pitch.  With that same engine in a tug, a large, slow-turning prop will give you humongous thrust, but with the compromise of a low top speed.  Variable pitch props do not solve the problem because they only allow their pitch to be changed, not their diameter.

What do you need for your boat?  I bet that you want the most speed you can get.  So:  the highest pitch prop that still provides sufficient thrust to get you somewhere near St for that pitch.  Still a guessing game, tho empirical formulae do exist.


*I said that at St there would be no thrust.  That is not (at least theoretically) true.  Since the beginning of flight, aircraft propeller blades have had an airfoil cross section.  That is, they are really rotating wings, not only generating thrust by virtue of their pitch, but also using the pressure differential the airfoil creates between the front of the prop blades and the rear: lift.  An aircraft propeller, even operating at (or above!) St still delivers thrust because of this.  It strikes me that there is a lot of room for hydrodynamic improvement in water propellers, specifically in improving their lift/drag ratios.  Aircraft wings and propellers (and sailboat keels!) long ago gave up the low aspect ratio shape that today's boat propellers still retain.  Continuing with that thought, boat propellers, it would seem to me, would be well served if they moved toward narrow high aspect ratio blades with a cross sectional shape derived from hydrofoils.  Another trade-off:  enough "meat" will need to be retained in those thin blades to handle the thrust forces...


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Monday, January 5, 2015

Nano-tech Experiment #3 (and reports on #1 and #2)

This is the third experiment with the Rustoleum nano-tech product called "NeverWet" - a super hydrophobic coating that can be applied from a spray can.  (Experiments #1 and #2 are here and here.)

For this experiment, we will be seeing how long the retained air film persists, and if the nano-coating has any anti-biological properties in sea water.  I think it might, since the retained air film could make barnacles and such uncomfortable, or might even prevent them from touching and attaching to the actual surface.  We'll see.  


Here's what I did:
  • I took a scrap of fiber-reinforced ABS plastic (left over from the refrigerator refurbishment) and masked off one side of it.  The other side got the NeverWet treatment.  I suspended it (from the hole you can see, partially covered with blue tape) in the water off our finger pier at Anacortes on December 21, 2014.  The finger pier is a floating one, so the coupon will never be exposed to air, except when I lift it up for inspection.

Report on Experiment #1


Experiment #1, as of Dec 2014

Experiment #1 began more than a year ago, in October, 2013.  For this test, I applied the NeverWet to our canvas sea hood. All was well until Nature's own nano-tech (pine pollen) arrived on the scene.  It coated and buried the NeverWet, and allowed water to once again wet the surface.  In an attempt to remove the pollen, I gently wiped part of the surface with a sponge damped in soapy water.  As you can see, that portion of the surface never recovered its hydrophobic properties.  Whether it was the mechanical action of the sponge or the surface tension-destroying property of the soap, I will never know.  But the portion of the sea hood that did not suffer from pollen accumulation or the soapy sponge is still every bit as water-repellent as ever.  From this I can propose that the coating is not strongly affected by UV.

Report on Experiment #2

Experiment #2 began in April of 2014, when I applied NeverWet to our dinghy propeller. It was amazing to see that the submerged prop looked like it was made of polished silver due to the thin layer of air it retained while submerged.

We used the dinghy normally for the entire 2014 season, giving no further thought or special attention to the prop.

By the end of the season, the nano-tech coating had ablated off the outer 1/2 of the propeller blades, but was still active on the inner half.

From this I conclude that NeverWet is not suitable as an anti-barnacle coating for boat props (guess we're still stuck with Barnacle Ban), but it could likely serve well on things that do not suffer from the abrasion of high-speed turbulent water contact.

The Future

It is the results of Experiment #2 that led to Experiment #3. Experiment #2 showed that the air film persisted while submerged over periods of days, and even in the presence of extreme turbulence. Will it be retained for months on end? And if indeed the retained air film is effective at retarding or preventing biological growth, NeverWet could serve for difficult-to-protect items such as depth sounder or speedo transducers.  And if the price could be gotten down low enough, perhaps NeverWet could even serve as a bottom paint alternative (for sailboats at least).


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Saturday, August 8, 2009

Thru the Hull

Unless you live on a boat, you have had perhaps only the briefest exposure to the sound that boats make in the water (swimming in a lake with nearby boats?). Let me assure you that you don't need all kinds of fancy, expensive sonar gear to hear the sound of a boat's propeller. It comes right thru the hull.

There is a boat show going on at Shilshole right now, and this has involved a lot of moving about by a lot of boats. It has been kind of noisy down below for the last few days because of this. Boat propellers are LOUD!

All that fancy gear on submarines is used to detect the prop noise from boats many miles away, and to analyze it and to identify the source. But for boats near or directly above the submarine, trust me, the whole crew knows about them, their only "instrumentation" being their ears, inside the steel bubble of the hull.
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